In conversation with Michael Eric Dyson

One of pro football’s all-time defensive greats, Malcolm Jenkins won Super Bowls with the Philadelphia Eagles and New Orleans Saints, and appeared in three Pro Bowls. He won the prestigious Jim Thorpe Award as a senior at the Ohio State University before entering the NFL as a first-round draft pick, where he would ultimately play for an impressive 13 seasons. The now-retired Jenkins has since become a media personality, executive producer, writer, racial justice advocate, and entrepreneur whose business ventures include the Listen Up Media conglomerate and an eponymous company called Malcolm Inc. His philanthropic organization, The Malcolm Jenkins Foundation, assists young people in underserved communities. A memoir about life on the playing field, advocating for Black Americans, and the highs and lows of his personal life, What Winners Won’t Tell You is a meditation on what it means to find balance in that thin space between victory and defeat.

Michael Eric Dyson is the author of the acclaimed and bestselling books Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon to White America, Unequal: A Story of America, and Long Time Coming: Reckoning with Race in America. His many other works address Barack Obama’s presidency, Hurricane Katrina, Jay-Z, and the effects of MLK’s assassination, among other wide-ranging topics. A frequent New York Times opinion writer, MSNBC political analyst, and a professor at Vanderbilt University, his many honors include an American Book Award and two NAACP Image Awards. Dyson has also been an ordained pastor for the last 40 years and has preached, spoken, and lectured at religious and secular institutions around the world.

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